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Suggestions for the Budget-Impaired Church
- By Jonathan Firey
- Published May 12, 2008
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Not long ago, my wife and I visited a large church on a Sunday morning. We arrived just in time to get our cappuccinos and to find a good seat on the back row. The service kicked off with an amazing worship team that started the morning off in loud high-energy form. We entered tried to enter into worship with them. Being a worship leader myself, I can understand what goes into organizing a team of that size. They had great musicians, amazing singers, and the sound quality was first-rate.
Now, I admit that I am sometimes distracted easily, and about five minutes into the worship set, my focus began to wander. I am a musician; so naturally, I began to examine the stage, the band, the speakers and all the other things going on. One thing I began to notice was the volume of “stuff” on stage. The guitar player had three guitars, a Marshall half-stack and a pedal board the size of my bathroom. The drummer had eight cymbals, five toms, and 3 drum machines. The stage was covered with cables, direct boxes, keyboards and guitars. They had a 16-person choir, and a full horn section. I thought, “What a great team!” They had all the resources they needed. They had great equipment, in-ear monitors, lights, a PowerPoint system, and so much more. This led me to think, “what about all of the small to mid-size churches that don’t have all of those blessings?” I immediately began brainstorming ways to help equip these smaller churches. Here are some of my suggestions for the “Budget-impaired”:
For the electric player:
For the Piano Players
For the Acoustic Players
You will be surprised at the sound quality versus price that you will find in some of these units. In short, if you have a heart to serve on the worship team at a smaller church, but do not have the money or knowledge to have the more expensive, “pro” gear, these are some great options for you.
Now, I admit that I am sometimes distracted easily, and about five minutes into the worship set, my focus began to wander. I am a musician; so naturally, I began to examine the stage, the band, the speakers and all the other things going on. One thing I began to notice was the volume of “stuff” on stage. The guitar player had three guitars, a Marshall half-stack and a pedal board the size of my bathroom. The drummer had eight cymbals, five toms, and 3 drum machines. The stage was covered with cables, direct boxes, keyboards and guitars. They had a 16-person choir, and a full horn section. I thought, “What a great team!” They had all the resources they needed. They had great equipment, in-ear monitors, lights, a PowerPoint system, and so much more. This led me to think, “what about all of the small to mid-size churches that don’t have all of those blessings?” I immediately began brainstorming ways to help equip these smaller churches. Here are some of my suggestions for the “Budget-impaired”:
For the electric player:
- There are some great multi-effect pedals available these days. Digitech has a series of pedals called the “RP Series.” They range in price from $79-$300. You get many different sounds, amp models, effects, a built-in tuner, and much more.
- Line 6 makes some amazing units. I like the “X3 Live”, “Xt Live” and the “Floor Pods.”
- Boss has a couple of nice floor units as well. The “ME20”, in my opinion, is a wonderful pedal.
- You can go directly into the sound system with all of these units, so there is no need for an amp. Ok…I know the hard-core gear guys are going to hate this option, and I know that digital is not quite like having a Vox “AC30” blowing your head off…but hear me out. It’s worth the sacrifice.
For the Piano Players
- Casio has a series called the “Privia Series” which are full-length keyboards with weighted keys. They sound and play great!
For the Acoustic Players
- One unit that I have fallen in love with is the L.R. Baggs “Para DI Box.” It’s a preamp with EQ. It is a great help if you cannot afford an expensive acoustic. It will allow you many EQ options to better the sound of your guitar. It is powered by a nine-volt battery, or by phantom power.
- The Boss “TU2” is a great floor tuner for acoustic or electric guitars.
You will be surprised at the sound quality versus price that you will find in some of these units. In short, if you have a heart to serve on the worship team at a smaller church, but do not have the money or knowledge to have the more expensive, “pro” gear, these are some great options for you.
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23 Responses to "Suggestions for the Budget-Impaired Church" 
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said this on 12 May 2008 7:13:13 PM CDT
Wow! What a big help. Thanks for the good ideas.
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said this on 13 May 2008 8:52:48 AM CDT
I've used a Baggs with my acoustic for several years. It makes ALL the difference.
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said this on 13 May 2008 9:41:50 AM CDT
I think our church may be wondering if there is a budget. (maybe $500/yr) Areas I find needing attention are: 1. Drums are overpowering - shields would be nice, but we lack room and would need drum mics. 2. Brass - if we put trumpets with band the vocalists can't hear themselves (everything is in a 14' x 16' rectangle) - if we put them on the opposite side of the chancel then it is hard to stay connected.
Any suggestions? |
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said this on 13 May 2008 9:45:25 AM CDT
Noticed I mistyped my email - sorry. Any thoughts on pick ups for violins
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said this on 13 May 2008 11:41:40 AM CDT
I like the Barcus Berry pickups alot, they range from $84-$400. Super Sensative Co has a little "spot" pickup for around $69. Its good on price. My favorite is the LR Baggs stuff and Fishman is always a good bet. I like the Fishman V200 Pro violin.
THanks! Jon |
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said this on 13 May 2008 2:22:42 PM CDT
Mark - my Wife is a violinist and plays out live with me. We use a McIntyre VT-700 violin pickup for her instrument. It sticks to the body right under the tailpiece with some removable putty and terminates in a 1/4" carpenter jack that attaches to the side of the instrument so the cable goes over her shoulder. It gives a clean, transparent, natural sound. We were turned on to it by our friend, David Hamilton, who does a lot of work with Michael W. Smith and Amy Grant. He told us that David Davidson, a premier Nashville player in studio and on tour uses the McIntyre. It's surprisingly inexpensive at only around $99. We bought ours online from Janet Davis Music - a bluegrass music store in Bella Vista, Arkansas. Here's the link to the page: http://www.janetdavismusi c.com/fidpup.html
Hope this helps! |
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said this on 13 May 2008 10:32:55 AM CDT
Agree with the comments for acoustic. I have been using the LR Baggs and TU-2 combination for several years for my SCGC guitar. Works great!
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said this on 13 May 2008 11:09:37 AM CDT
Jonathan,
Great article. It's like you are teaching people how to take the fish and loaves God has given them and allowing Him to make something wonderful out of using the simple resources they have available. Good job. Blessings, Dennis Jernigan |
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said this on 13 May 2008 11:29:02 AM CDT
Mark - I was at a church with a relatively small stage for a number of years. How do you have the stage configured right now? Are the vocals up front with the WL? One answer may be to have the BG vocals off to the side or to build a riser so they can stand in the back, but since they will be raised people can still see them. (I noticed on a Tommy Walker video he did this and it seemed to work).
Another thing that may help is to use the Aviom In Ear system. I know they cost money, but maybe you could fundraiser for them. I was able to purchase them in my small church when we remodeled the sanctuary. Everyone loved them because they were able to control their volume. (Couple notes on this: I was not able to afford a different Aviom for every singer so they shared. At first it was 1 unit for 4 vocals, later 1 for 2. I used a headphone amp to split the connection and allow them to have separate overall levels. Second, I found for the bass player and the drummer the buttkickers really help "sell" the in ear method) |
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said this on 19 May 2008 5:33:48 PM CDT
What do you mean by buttkickers really help "sell" the in ear method? Please explain further of how you are using the Aviom for you vocalist. I have 7 vocalist and 2 avioms that are not being used. I never thought about letting my vocalist use the aviom. How would I make this happen with 7 vocals & 2 aviom units?
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said this on 13 May 2008 8:02:02 PM CDT
I'm a classically trained percussionist who plays drums in a 250ish church with a very crowded stage but very active traditional and contemporary music ministry. The sanctuary seats MAYBE 300. I use an electronic drumset at church. I used to despise electronic sets because of the horrible "drum" and "cymbal" sounds that came out of it. Also it killed me to have a lack of versatility and limited number of sounds I could have at any one time. It grew on me, though. I realized that electronic sets solve so many of the volume and balance issues with an acoustic set in such a small area. I hated playing super soft on acoustic sets so that I wouldn't be a soloist. Electronic sets can be very expensive, $1000 for a "cheap" set and decent sets starting at $1500. But when you start getting into the acoustic set itself, drum shields, drum mics, soundboards for the mics, etc, it might be worth it to invest in an electronic set. Electronic sets can vary widely in the quality of sounds, amount of manipulation of the sounds, and the size of the sound library. The better sets offer built in mixers for each trigger, and different sound manipulation options like pitch and sustain. Dual triggers are a nice thing to have too, like for the snare and cymbals.
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said this on 13 Dec 2008 12:19:55 AM CDT
Yes, but you lose all the acoustic presence of the drums within the room. I have been playing electronic drums at my church for the past 3 years...every time I play them, my grow to loathe them more. we also are in a small setting. The acoustic set we've pulled out of the closet fills the room PERFECTLY. Not too loud, in fact, its a little too quiet. But, having the drums go ONLY through speakers kinda ruins them.
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said this on 13 May 2008 9:27:32 PM CDT
Great Article, I have been leading music for over 30 years and I have always said simple is best. Thanks for the input, I will be putting some this to use soon.
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said this on 14 May 2008 9:27:04 AM CDT
Good article. You don't need tons of stuff to sound good: just start with good sounds and then you don't have to fix them. Shop around for a good sounding acoustic guitar. If you listen to the sound not the brand name, there are some great instruments out there to buy. The best addition is new strings.
Similarly with the Privia keyboards; a little gaffa tape hides the name, and you will sound great on an instrument that costs a fraction of the price of the usual suspects and, get this, weighs half as much. They are the best bargain in keyboards. If only they made a 76 note weighted version for all the players who move their keyboards in cars every week. Great work guys. |
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said this on 15 May 2008 2:21:45 AM CDT
WE HAVE A GOOD YAMAHA ORGAN AND A GOOD CHOIR HAVING 80 MEMBERS. OUR PROBLEM IS WE NEED MUSIC NOTES OF GOOD SONGS FOR CHRISTMAS, PASSION AND GENERAL. I TRIED TO GET SOME FROM LILENAS PUBLISHING COMPANY, FLORIDA. THEY SENT ME THE PRICE LIST, AND THE PRICES ARE VERY HIGH. WE CANNOT AFFORD IT. SO KINDLY SEND ME THE MUSIC NOTES OF GOOD SONGS FOR SUNDAY SCHOOL CHILDREN, AND CHRISTMAS SONGS, PASSION SONGS AND GENERAL SONGS FOR OUR CHOIR.
THANKYOU |
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said this on 15 May 2008 11:27:21 AM CDT
Im sorry but I only specialize in the "gear" category. Im sure the main site for Praise Charts will help.
Thanks! |
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said this on 03 Aug 2008 11:16:45 PM CDT
Jonathan,
Terrific and so true. Back in the day (when I was young), I had a keyboard and drum machine and that's all. I led worship that way in a church startup for over a year with a bass player and acoustic guitar player. Finally a drummer came along... what a blessing! Then next thing you know another keyboard player came and then an electric guitar player and it just grew from there. You don't have to have all the stuff to have good music, but it helps. You definitely don't have to have all the good stuff to have people respond wholeheartedly in worship. There have been times I really thought that it wouldn't even matter if we had any music in a service. You've been to our church and so you know that sometimes we have a setup similar to the one you described, but just as often we may only use piano, acoustic, bass and a djimbe. We definitely like variety and really those morning when we just strip all of it away are some of the most profound that we've experienced in congregational worship response. Praying for you guys... Your friend, Monte |
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said this on 03 Dec 2008 2:59:34 PM CDT
+1 for the LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI Box. I use one with the M1 pickup in my Larrivee LV-03R and it's a sweet setup.
We are also a very small church with maybe 50 congregants on any given Sunday. When the keyboard and bass player are away it's just me, my son and my wife on acoustic guitars/vocals. No regular drummer. |
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said this on 13 Dec 2008 12:15:37 AM CDT
I agree with everything mentioned EXCEPT what was said about the electric guitar going straight into the system. Even in a small room setting, going straight in does not even begin to compare tonally to playing through a mic'd amp. it can't even begin to hold a candle to it.
I play drums and guitar on the worship teams at my church, and we are on a low musical budget, and play in a small setting. The main worship leader, as to be expected wants to keep the stage volume low, of course. But you really just can't begin to compare the quality of sound of an electric going into a mixer, through all kinds of EQ, through solid state power amps and out speakers that were not designed for reproducing guitar. It's like listening to music over the phone. When you do this, you remove all the guts...all the PURPOSE of having an electric guitar. Leads, crunch, ambient filler...you can play chords on an acoustic! Why even have an electric there at all if it's not going to be full sounding and gutsy? |
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said this on 10 Aug 2009 3:16:28 AM CDT
Tell Lincoln Brewster, he uses a POD X3 live on stage. It just takes tweaking. You can start by downloading some of his tones (if you have a POD), and learning how he created his, and work from there. The benefits far outweigh your personal preference. Especially in a small setting. Anything that keeps stage volume down, makes clarity for the audience better (monitor volume spilling off stage muddies up what the audience hears). If you must have your amp on stage, use an amp stand to get it closer to you, and position it facing you, not the audience.
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said this on 05 Mar 2009 5:08:23 PM CDT
Nice reply's and good suggetions. I myself play in a smallish band, congregation 150/200 on a good day. The acustics are just dreadful with sound bouncing but overall resonable church gear that in my opinion need upgradeing a bit. However small to medieum church's that "struggle" with gear and or performance may just be tied down with leader and or Pastor that has other priorities and may not have the understanding that music IS very inportant and really is a big deal. I know that you don't need stacks of stuff to sound good but getting good sounding gear bit by bit will be helpful as well. Again it all depends of the style of music one goes with as well and if you have a very good core of players and singers you will melt the heart of the listener anyway. I have always found that the final outcome will be determined by your attitude to prayer.
Cheers Dennis |
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said this on 23 Mar 2009 5:00:30 PM CDT
For all you worship leaders in small to mid-size churches, you should check out Interactive Worship Live (www.interactiveworshiplive.com). The company sales interactive backing tracks that work with Ableton Live. There will be some cost for equipment and song purchases, but no more than you would need to buy good quality instruments. I have just started using these and they are amazing. This is a great tool for filling out your sound or covering in a pinch.
God Bless you Guys! |
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said this on 12 Jun 2010 8:16:45 AM CDT
I agree that Casio has several models of 88 weighted-keyed keyboards that I love! I also use a Line Pro Pod Plus which I got brand new for 299.00. (If you want a better wah pedal though, try to go the extra 100.00 for the Pro Pod.)
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